New Features

**TalTal** · #1 03-09-2011, 09:10 AM

Mini Tradeskill window and Customizable bottom bar. I have tested both of these and they appear to be fully functional. If anyone would like to give them a try and give me feedback that would be great. I would prefer more testing before pushing these, especially the bottom bar since it will be the new default, to the updater.

To install just extract the zip to your profitui folder and then start/restart eq2.

Silat

Edit: Added ability to show up to 4 bars stacked on top of each other. Fixed DPS display bug. Files are in the zip.
Edit2: Removed zips as they are now part of the autoupdater.

g0dless420 · #2 03-09-2011, 12:38 PM

Good News: I like the tradeskill window, its very nice to have it compact. So far I havent noticed any issues with it while crafting, but will keep you informed if I do.

Bad News: The bottom bar is empty after it loads (as soon as you log in you get a message saying the bar is loading in 18 seconds), and I'm unable to click the 'BottomBar Config' button in the settings. It highlights just does not function.

I tried running the updater and selecting a different variant for the bar, but that resulted in the same issue.

Jamesc146 · #3 03-09-2011, 12:40 PM

Same result for me here

**TalTal** · #4 03-09-2011, 01:06 PM

Forgot to add the modifed profitui custom file. Adding to zip above now.

Thanks for letting me know.

Silat

**TalTal** · #5 03-09-2011, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0dless420

Good News: I like the tradeskill window, its very nice to have it compact. So far I havent noticed any issues with it while crafting, but will keep you informed if I do.

Yea I always hated the amount of room the ts window took up. That was why I made this...it was something I wanted and I figured I'd share it.

Silat

McCloud68 · #6 03-09-2011, 01:21 PM

Testing these new things out shortly, will let you know.
Awesome work on Profit btw.

xerek · #7 03-09-2011, 02:44 PM

I love it! My only complaint about it is that the DPS stat, for some reason, doesn't show but 1 digit and then 3 dots/periods so it looks like:

DPS: 7...

My bar is very 'uncluttered' and should allow plenty of space for this stat so I'm unsure why this one stat does this.

In any case... I like the customization of this window and I would love to see this customization approach implemented on the quick buttons at some point... I think that's the only thing that keeps me from using profit 'as-is' these days is the fact that I cannot change my quick buttons without editing the xml file.

in any case it looks great .. kudos!

**TalTal** · #8 03-09-2011, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xerek

I love it! My only complaint about it is that the DPS stat, for some reason, doesn't show but 1 digit and then 3 dots/periods so it looks like:

DPS: 7...

My bar is very 'uncluttered' and should allow plenty of space for this stat so I'm unsure why this one stat does this.

<SNIP>

It looks that way because I apparently did not make enough space for that stat to show all its digits. That problem cannot be caused by cluttering at all. In fact if you put more items than will fit on the bar it will let you...you just won't see them as they will scoll off the right side.

I will get that stat corrected. I know of at least 1 other one as well. If you notice anything else please let me know.

Silat

ScareCrow83 · #9 03-09-2011, 03:31 PM

I've been a long time Fetish Nightfall user and just decided today to try out Profit for the hell of it (heard lots of good things about it) and to be honest, I love it. Excellent work! Kudos to you, friend!

Just added the two new *features* and they seem to be, for all intents and purposes, working fine. Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by xerek

I love it! My only complaint about it is that the DPS stat, for some reason, doesn't show but 1 digit and then 3 dots/periods so it looks like:

DPS: 7...

My bar is very 'uncluttered' and should allow plenty of space for this stat so I'm unsure why this one stat does this.

Didn't notice this because I don't have that stat showing.

g0dless420 · #10 03-09-2011, 03:31 PM

Played around with the options a bit now, I must say I really like the new bar, it really eliminates a lot of unnecessary items for my mains class.

I absolutely LOVE that its character specific! My main set it up to show caster stats. I then camped to my shadowknight, and even loaded my necro's ui layout.

One con, I tried adding a bunch of stats to the bar, to see what would happen, and they scroll off the screen. I'm not sure if it's possible to make the bottom bar use a scroll effect, or otherwise account for this and push stats closer together.

**TalTal** · #11 03-09-2011, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0dless420

Played around with the options a bit now, I must say I really like the new bar, it really eliminates a lot of unnecessary items for my mains class.

I absolutely LOVE that its character specific! My main set it up to show caster stats. I then camped to my shadowknight, and even loaded my necro's ui layout.

One con, I tried adding a bunch of stats to the bar, to see what would happen, and they scroll off the screen. I'm not sure if it's possible to make the bottom bar use a scroll effect, or otherwise account for this and push stats closer together.

I could add a scroll effect, make it a fatter bar with two rows, or make it 2 + bars that are right on top of each other.

I know that I personally would not like the tickertape effect of the scrollingbar...but I could make it to default to not scrolling and then have an option for the user to make it scroll.

Any thoughts?

Silat

Edit: as for scroll effect it could be vertical or horizontal scrolling. I don't think the vertical would drive me too crazy.

ScareCrow83 · #12 03-09-2011, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0dless420

Played around with the options a bit now, I must say I really like the new bar, it really eliminates a lot of unnecessary items for my mains class.

I absolutely LOVE that its character specific! My main set it up to show caster stats. I then camped to my shadowknight, and even loaded my necro's ui layout.

One con, I tried adding a bunch of stats to the bar, to see what would happen, and they scroll off the screen. I'm not sure if it's possible to make the bottom bar use a scroll effect, or otherwise account for this and push stats closer together.

Yeah, I like the customizable stats bar but all the stats I want to be visible just don't fit. Scrolling would be nice or perhaps even making several stackable layers when you resize the window vertically.

**TalTal** · #13 03-09-2011, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScareCrow83

I've been a long time Fetish Nightfall user and just decided today to try out Profit for the hell of it (heard lots of good things about it) and to be honest, I love it. Excellent work! Kudos to you, friend!

Just added the two new *features* and they seem to be, for all intents and purposes, working fine. Thanks

Didn't notice this because I don't have that stat showing.

I had it showing but my dps mod is very low because I play non-raid geared healers. So it looked okay for me. These type of things are why I wanted a limited set of users first.

Silat

**TalTal** · #14 03-09-2011, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0dless420

<SNIP>
One con, I tried adding a bunch of stats to the bar, to see what would happen, and they scroll off the screen. I'm not sure if it's possible to make the bottom bar use a scroll effect, or otherwise account for this and push stats closer together.

I made the bar able to have up to 4 bars stacked one on top of the other...every stat should now fit if you use all 4 bars. just resize the bar upward to see additional bars.

Silat

Jamesc146 · #15 03-09-2011, 08:29 PM

I think it would be nice to have an "on hover in" show a second bar and you could customise both bars as you see fit so that when you mouse over the bar the second bar would overlap the first and on hover out it shows the regular bar. similar to what the top bar does now.

**TalTal** · #16 03-09-2011, 08:34 PM

I might be able to make it an either or thing. Let me see.

Silat

gjsi · #17 03-10-2011, 10:46 AM

First: I see some of the stats from the top bar, please tell me you are not planning to change or remove the top bar?

Second: What is it with check box lists, that people set them up to go across the columns first then down for extra columns.

It is much more readable and eaiser to follow when using checkbox lists to put your column options down and then add a second (or third, fourth, . . . ) column if you have enough options.

My first impression on looking at the bottom bar configuration, was half the stuff is missing, because my eyes went down the list.

We have been trained by everyday tasks to read across the page from left to right then up to down for words, but we have also been trained to read columns of data from top to bottom, then left to right.

I would suggest the configuration table be setup to read top to bottom, then left to right.

**TalTal** · #18 03-10-2011, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gjsi

First: I see some of the stats from the top bar, please tell me you are not planning to change or remove the top bar?

Second: What is it with check box lists, that people set them up to go across the columns first then down for extra columns.

It is much more readable and eaiser to follow when using checkbox lists to put your column options down and then add a second (or third, fourth, . . . ) column if you have enough options.

My first impression on looking at the bottom bar configuration, was half the stuff is missing, because my eyes went down the list.

We have been trained by everyday tasks to read across the page from left to right then up to down for words, but we have also been trained to read columns of data from top to bottom, then left to right.

I would suggest the configuration table be setup to read top to bottom, then left to right.

I agree in principle. It was just easier to code it that way....since I was working off an earlier concept of mine. Also the bar reads across so this order makes them line up better from the appearance on the bar. Iif enough people want it arranged differently or I just get some more free time I can make a variant or make it an option on the menu itself.

Silat

lollygagger · #19 03-10-2011, 07:41 PM

I am using a mix and match UI. I've installed the bottom bar mod and really like the customizations it gives me. The one thing I've not figured out is how to auto show the window when I log in. Currently using a macro to deal with this:

/show_window Custom.ProfitUI_BottomBar

Would someone point me in the right direction of setting this window to auto show?

Thanks!

--Lollygagger

**TalTal** · #20 03-10-2011, 08:03 PM

You need to code an onshow or a timer into a mainhud ui element that will show the window using the same command you have for your macro. The profit experience window and control center combined handle that task in profitui.

Silat

lollygagger · #21 03-10-2011, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TalTal

You need to code an onshow or a timer into a mainhud ui element that will show the window using the same command you have for your macro. The profit experience window and control center combined handle that task in profitui.

Silat

That did the trick. Added it to my experience window. Thanks for the quick reply. Keep up the good work TalTal.

**TalTal** · #22 03-10-2011, 10:59 PM

Well I've had a dozen people download the latest iteration of the customizable bottom bar and the only comments are about the order of the menu option checkboxes and a request to have onhover functionality. I intend to push it to the autoupdater on monday barring any major issues so if you find anything at all please let me know.

Silat

g0dless420 · #23 03-11-2011, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TalTal

Well I've had a dozen people download the latest iteration of the customizable bottom bar and the only comments are about the order of the menu option checkboxes and a request to have onhover functionality. I intend to push it to the autoupdater on monday barring any major issues so if you find anything at all please let me know.

Silat

Notes:
1- I dont mind the order of the of the options. Granted at first I had the same issues from reading Top-Bottom, but once you look at it overall in its current format (rows Left-Right) it makes it pretty simple to understand how it will add them to the bar.

2- Finally, something on the crafting window! I've still had no issues with it, so dont fret. I know the window is pretty compact to save room, but would you think about squeezing crafting stats into it somehow? I know I could just add them to the bottom bar, but I'm sure a majority of us only worry about those stats as were actively crafting. If not, its not a big issue by any means. It is though, one of the few ways to remind myself to equip crafting gear heh.

**TalTal** · #24 03-11-2011, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0dless420

Notes:
1- I dont mind the order of the of the options. Granted at first I had the same issues from reading Top-Bottom, but once you look at it overall in its current format (rows Left-Right) it makes it pretty simple to understand how it will add them to the bar.

2- Finally, something on the crafting window! I've still had no issues with it, so dont fret. I know the window is pretty compact to save room, but would you think about squeezing crafting stats into it somehow? I know I could just add them to the bottom bar, but I'm sure a majority of us only worry about those stats as were actively crafting. If not, its not a big issue by any means. It is though, one of the few ways to remind myself to equip crafting gear heh.

I like having them there too. I sacrificed them for size and an uncluttered appearance. Let me take a second look and see what I can do.

Silat

Edit: I updated the ts zip it now has the stats. Let me know what you think.

g0dless420 · #25 03-11-2011, 04:39 PM

Looks really good. It doesn't feel squished in either. But something else does... (I'm your least favorite poster I think haha)...

I think you may want to make the box just a bit taller so the 'disable depot' and 'begin' button ... or leave it that way to slowly drive me crazy little by little each time I see it.