Thanks, again for your info! stumbling around I opened up a file called EQ map, and what you mentioned about skins appeared there, and I just found a Map updater here on this site, installed it, and the Map is back! The person who made it made it auto update, so hopefully I won't run into this problem again. You were also right that I was using an EQ2 map updater I had found a couple of years ago...luckily for me in installed itself and all of that, Like this new one did, and That's the way I like computer stuff (at least for games!) I'm so happy the map is back! Thank you once again for your help!!!