Ok. Guess I wasn't clear enough again. I loaded both of these on different comps with Vista as CLEAN updates. Went to WINDOW SETTINGS. Set them to BOTH titlebar and frames. Then nothing. I will again try them as clean updates. Then rinse, wash and repeat. I really do appreciate the help (I am trying and just want to get the data display as it was). I am going through this trouble, because this ui is worth it.
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