[Turgis]

Ok sorry. I read that before and was not sure exactly what you meant and I looked through the FAQ and did not find anything that seemed related. What it looks like your saying is to extend the area of the bottom bar up and set the background so its black which is fine that should work, but then you are saying to extend the individual windows in the top area down and make theirs black also? This won't work since there are not windows covering every part of the top of my window. There would be background showing through plus you would have to line all the windows up exactly the same height which I had planned to let at least one flow over the dark area. If I am completely wrong here sorry but thanks for the help.

Also using the vertical letterbox finally I noticed 2 things. It eats the left and right sides of the bottombar, it also covers up the new voice chat bar (everything else so far seems to stay on top of the black area) and even though I said false to ShowVerticalEdge its still showing the white bar down the edges but oddly it stops about 1 1/2 inches from the top and bottom.