Yups it sure looks that way and also the damn group member windows seem to follow the same pattern now also
.. Thats howcome it took me so long to fix that lol I knew what the problem was it was just a case of getting them lined back up with the "cut out" but thats history now I guess as it fixed
So what you think of my last idea for this effects window? You know what I mean dont you ?.... Just place a new window with the triangle fram etc over the top of a clear effects window .. and the button on the custom window would do somthing like Parent.Parent.Effects.size=447,23 .... (for the min button) I done this before so it should work