Oks, kind of went through all that at different stages,
Thanks for the info on the "Dummy objects" will give that a try.
Only files I took out of the default folder was the target.xml and impliedtarget.xml and replaced those with the custom one's that were not working in the custom UI folder.
Also I expected it to be burried and when I couldnt find it I had a closer look in the root and no refrence to the file was there,
But in the folder itself it is there,
So what I have had to do is copy the target window and rename it, and rename the pieces in there that need to be. And this time the UI builder has saved the file with the correct info and size.
All very strange, But hopefully I can make some progress now lol
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It was just hard to understand is all.
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Having read back through my post /agree it dont make a lot of sense to me either today lol
Yesterday was not a good day at all, in all respects