How to fix the bags without starting from scratch after GU45
 

Hi,

The title pretty much says it, I noticed a bunch of updates to the default ui settings files that I assume contains fixes to the hidden bags, perhaps that is a faulty assumption on my part though. Anyway, I was wondering if there was a fix to the bags locations not saving properly without having to reconfigure the locations of everything on my screen. Wishful thinking I suppose, but its a considerable amount of work for my settings, and I figured it was worth the asking,

-Ged

P.S. GM9, Thanks for changing the item links to lootdb, much more useful that way

Solution
 

I figured it out I think... posting a detailed solution in a min

This post pointed me in the right direction, thanks tknarr. I had seen the post before but didn't know what UiSettingsSpy was at the time. Excellent little program by the way. It can be a little overwhelming for novices, so I thought this walk through might help out a bit.

Step 1) While not running EQ2, download, extract, and run UiSettingsSpy from here

Step 2) On the first tab, select the UI file that you want to fix (I.E. servername_gedron_eq2_uisettings.ini)

Step 3) Click on the "View Data" tab

Step 4) In the lower right area called "Modules and Windows" expand the "Inventory" tree and look for bag clones that are different than the others. In my case they were like "bag_clone_205_0" and "bag_clone_206_0". I had 3 of them to remove. For clarification - the bag clones in bold with the higher numbers in the list below would be the ones that you want to find (exact names may vary I suppose)

• -Bag_clone_0_-3
• -Bag_clone_0_-4
• -Bag_clone_0_-5
• -Bag_clone_11_-3
• -Bag_clone_17_-1
• -Bag_clone_1_-3
• -Bag_clone_1_-4
• -Bag_clone_1_-5
  
• -Bag_clone_205_0
• -Bag_clone_206_0
• -Bag_clone_251_0
  
• -Bag_clone_2_-3
• -Bag_clone_2_-4
• -Bag_clone_2_0
• -Bag_clone_3_-3
• -Bag_clone_3_-4
• -Bag_clone_3_0

Step 5) Click on each of those clones to highlight them, then click on the "Delete" button right below the "Modules and Windows" area for each "unusual" bag clone
[NOTE - some people have reported having success only after they deleted ALL Bag_Clone entries... it might be worth a shot if just removing these entries doesn't work for you]

Step 6) When they are gone, click on "Save" under the File menu in the upper left corner, then Close UiSettingsSpy.

Step 7) Load the game and test that it now saves things properly. If all is good then you can either go back in to UiSettingsSpy and modify all of the other character files, or you can use /load_uisettings within the game to copy the settings from your fixed profile... whichever you think will be better.

Good luck :P
-Ged

:nana::nana:
Thank You! I followed your instructions and voila, worked like a charm, no need to start from scratch and redo all of ProfitUI.
I hope more people read this thread as it did the trick with the bags 100%.

Once again, thanks a lot.

Just confirming that the above is the thing to do if you are comfortable editing your files with the UIsettingsSpy, that's exactly how I had updated the default files as mentioned in the OP. Thanks for that walkthrough. :)

I am a little confused. What do you mean by "different"? Each bag has something different. Are we talking about the way the name is listed? Or the way the data info is listed?

Thanks for the help, this is a major annoyance for me!

The ones with the high numbers.

Thanks a bunch!

If not good at editing or prefer not to use that method. This is what I found on SOE forums. (After alot of searching and many methods given.)
http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/p...opic_id=418404
I used this method and seems to be working great. No complete delete of character .ini file, and starting from scratch of window positions.
Just followed the quote in detail and it simply worked.

Figured this would be best place for different variants of fixing.

Just a note for Vista users, create a short cut of the "UiSettingsSpy" program and open the properties.

Then go to the "Compatibility" tab and select the "Disable visual themes"

Now you can see your "Delete" button :P

Did not work for me.....
 

I followed the instructions and found 3 bags with higher numbers than the others. I deleted them and saved the ui then loaded EQ2 and set the bags to the locations that I wanted. Changed zones then went to the bank and found that the bags still move to where ever they want to. I reloaded UiSettingSpy and checked my profile and the bags that I deleted where gone. Went back and logged into EQ2 and checked again to find the bags still will not remember their locations. So what next. This fix does not seem to work.

Well, it "should" have worked... I know it did for me, and for many others. Have you tried the method stated by Pure just a couple above yours?

-Ged

Still No Joy
 

Well I went and tried it on a different toon, followed Gedron's instructions to the letter, and still no joy. The new bank bags still move to where ever they want to. I set them, then switched toons and checked the bank again to find the bags still will not stay where I put them.

At least if you use the auto updater you can also remove your uisettings and start over using the default ProfitUI uisettings as they have been fixed a while ago (as mentioned in the OP). I can't remember whether the manual install is up to date. :o

bags and UI
 

Was just wondering if i load another ui setting from another toon of mine does it include the bank,broker and house slot bags, ie position and size etc.

thanks

yes it does

This fix does not work for me
 

I've followed all the steps from above and I have no odd size bag clones. they are all in range 0-3 to 17-1.

[IMG]E:\EQ2\Interfaces\Bags info.JPG[/IMG]

any suggestion on what to try now

thanks

Are you sure you are editing the correct file, i.e. that of the toon with the problem?

Otherwise what should certainly work is just to delete every one of the bag entries. You will need to rearrange all bags in game but it should save afterwards.

bags and UI
 

ok, will delete all the bag entrys and try that, when i do will i have to do this for all 19 toons or just one and load the ui? And yes it is the correct toon, but all of them move the bags on their own.

i have this problem on 2 computers and 2 accounts

thanks

If all your toons use the same layout just delete all their uisettings.ini files (except the one you fixed of course) and select the fixed one when you log in.

Otherwise you will have to do them all manually. However, if removing all bag entries helps, just compare the fixed file with the previous ones and see which entry was the culprit. That way you only need to remove that one for your other toons.

Just to confrim that this worked for me. I had to delete all the bag_clone data because the problem just shifted to other bags when I only deleted the high values.

I really stopped by to thank Gedron for the clear instructions and gm9 for bringing it to my attention on the official forums - and anyone else who had a hand in it! Thank you.

Glad it helped you. I modified my instructions to include the possibility of removing all bag entries too. Thanks.

-Ged

Curious...

one of my characters now has bags that want to attach to the top bar of ProfitUI Reborn. No idea why this is happening but it's just with my latest alt. Would this be the problem?

Thanks for any assistance.

Found my own answer. Change the ui_setting to another character, if you can. Otherwise, change the scaling through /load_uisettings

I tried to remove the high number bags using UiSettingsSpy and the program seems to lock up. I ended task and tried it on other bags and it also locks up. I have the most recent version of UiSettingsSpy and have followed the instructions to the letter. What could I be diong wrong? Is there an incompatibility with the latest LU? I'm at a loss. :confused:

I'm also having a problem with UISettingsSpy locking up when trying to delete the bag info. I've submitted it as a bug, but no word on it yet.

Yea yea yea, I'll get to it:P I am just really busy at work so not a lot of time to fix things ATM.

Hey Landin. Didn't mean to sound like I was being impatient. Just wanted to let him know that he wasn't the only one having the problem. It's people like you that keep us from tearing our hair out due to SoE bugs that their solution to fixing is to delete and start over. Thanks for the work and time you put into this.

help
 

I've done all this, I've even removed Profit and done a fresh reinstall of both Profit and UISettings Spy. What I'm not getting is anything in the box that says "Modules and Windows", how do I get this Inventory line you say to use?? I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong or what?! BTW, if I delete all my ui server settings files and try to load one of the Profits into UISettings, it gives me an error saying "This seems to be a uisettings file PreLU47. UISettings Spy no longer supports the old format." Might that be the reason, because that is what I base all my settings off. Thanks for your time guys, and I appreciate everything, honest! :o

Oh I didn't take it u was being impatient, just PUSHY!:p lol j/k no worries Malloc

The current work around is to add a voice chat channel and every thing will populate (or should). I am slowly working on this but I have upgraded to D2009 from D2006 witch added more work to getting this fixed:/

ProfitUI default uisettings should not have problems with the bags, if you are going to delete your uisettings anyway you can just use the ProfitUI defaults without further modification.

I too have an issue with a rogue bag. I tried using the UIsettingsSpy but when I tell it to view data I don't have and inventoty button to expand under windows and modules. I'm running XP 64 could that be the problem, or did I misread something in the orgininal post?


TIA

same here, modules and windows remains blank with both ProfitUI and modified profile, and i too get "This seems to be a uisettings file PreLU47. UISettings Spy no longer supports the old format." when loading ProfitUI profile. No error message when loading modified character profile.

edit , tried different versions of UI settings spy
1.0.3.4(according to "About" box), filename suggests its 1.0.3.5, behaves as described above
1.0.3.4(version name in filename) hangs immediately, I did try to rename the ui files alphabeticaly so that the spy would look into different UI files when its launched, hang with every file
1.0.3.3(version name in filename, "about" box doesnt say anything) works like a charm for default ProfitUI default profile but modified *.ini files won't show anything in "Modules and Windows" box. Doesnt show it with profile files that i had saved from time i only used the default SOE UI either

With default ProfitUI1280x1024 bags wont fit without ovelapping, have to re-arrange the placement and the bag slot size ;)

Landiin, the author of UISettingsSpy, explained 4 posts above how to work around the issue in UISettingsSpy until he fixes it.

thank you, dont know why i missed that post. And indeed workaround works

I added a voice chat window, it populated the module window, but when I delete an "unusual" bag the program stops responding

Bag Positioning woes...
 

Ok...this is what I've discovered in hopes it will help someone.

Bag_clone_0_-3 thru Bag_clone_11_-3 are all regular bank slot bag positions
Bag_clone_0_-4 thru Bag_clone_7_-4 are all of the shared bank slot bag positions
Bag_clone_0_-5 thru Bag_clone_5_-5 are all of the house vault bag positions
Bag_clone_0_0 thru Bag_clone_5_0 are the inventory bag positions
Bag_clone_17_-1 is the ammo bag position

Now...the other thing I discovered is that if you have 12 regular bank slots + 8 shared bank slots + 1 ammo bag + 6 inventory bags + 6 housing vault slots...EQ2 seems to stop adding entries to the .ini file after creating 30 bag entries.

Can anyone confirm this? This means that if you have the maximum amount of storage on a toon you end up with 3 rogue bags?

Yes that's exactly the issue at hand, it is and always was a bug SOE needs to fix.

I thought this was fixed and hadn't had a problem at all since doing the "backup" method after the first problem arose. I just did it on one toon, then copied that setting to all the other toons and it was done.

Now, the problem is here again after upgrading to the new expansion and the ui settings spy and backup method both fail to keep the bags in place. Is it simply a lost cause now?

Same issue...
 

I'm doing the same thing. As I delete the "high numbered" bags, the program locks up.

I'll play around with it more and see if I can find out what is going on.

I also noticed that if I maximized the gui, I couldn't see the delete and compare windows buttons. Best to leave it the size it is. Thanks for the help all!

Yeah, I got the same results. Everything locked up on me after I deleted a bag clone and I had to end the process with Task Manager. I tried the author's work around and it allowed me to delete one bag clone, but then all the bag clones dissapeared from the list and I was unable to get anything to show regardless of what I did... add a chat channel, restart the application..

I ended up just deleting the ini file and just starting with the ProfitUI default for my resolution. I fixed all my bag positions and logged off and back in and they stayed so I copied my UI to my other toons.