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Teraline 04-16-2006 07:38 AM

Whiners
 
Whiners is the exact reason I post rarely on forums, I just gleam what informaion I can and move on. This UI is the best I have seen and used, and Zonx is right there are no major issues at this time. Even when there had been issues in the past, someone usually posts a quick fix like recently so I can use that if necessary while I patiently wait for the official fix. I am just glad that the old saying "You get what you pay for" is not true with Zonx's UI, otherwise since we paid nothing we should get a substandard product. But instead we get the best.

AbakirkIII 04-16-2006 09:22 AM

Wa Wa Wa !
 
I gotta admit.....Whiners and Crybabies go away there are plenty of ui's out there for peeps that just wanna complain,

Through all this game has been through this year already this is and always will be the best UI ever done!

Thanks Zonx for your passion in sharing with us something you created so we all can have a more personnal touch to our game experiance.......Really love this Ui and will use it till I drop!

Thanks again Zonx, Thanx to all the supporters and Go away all you negative peeps. You are not needed to make our world go round!

Sarcus Sarcasticus

lordebon 04-16-2006 09:28 AM

If folks can't wait for Zonx to update the UI when he gets to it, then maybe they should use another UI. Hes not doing it for the money, hes doing it as a service to us. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth folks.

Personally, I love FetishUI. I also know how to use the default windows that are changed in a LU until a new release is out.

I mean come on. LU21 did nothing big with the UI, hardly warranting an official update when there were workarounds posted. LU22 did have some serious stuff but that was only a few days ago! Give him some time -- not everyone can or wants to drop everything to update a UI the instant a new LU goes live.

Ertoocs 04-16-2006 10:53 AM

Zonx, gotta give you due respect...this UI is da bomb!!! I'll admit that I look forward to checking the site every few days for any updates and am somewhat disappointed when there isn't one, however, from personal experience I know that tweaking UI's is VERY time consuming.

If you just CANNOT live without something new that SOE has added to the UI, simply delete the Fetish version of the window and EQ will use the default. Either do that, OR sit down, open up UIBuilder (which SOE so generously included for free) and figure it out yourself (it's actually kinda fun once you get the hang of it).

babycat 04-16-2006 01:30 PM

Agree..ppl take a chill pilll
 
Whiners quit complaining, the man has a life!!!! The changes that were make are not that big of a deal, and it does not affect game play. I would hate to see Zonx just quit altogether because of whinners. He has made this UI for everyone to use, on his OWN TIME and FREE to use at that! I have donate today and if you like this UI you should donate too! Zonx pls turn a deaf ear to these whinners, my hat goes off to you. I LOVE THIS UI and will use it (as said above) till I drop.... Love ya Zonx ! :D

Ykalon 04-16-2006 03:49 PM

Kissing up to him is not much better. I considered the implementation of zone reuse timer window pretty major. And LU 22 was a BIG overhaul and yet lots of other ui writers are finished with their updates. I think it's reasonable to want an update after every LU at least. Now it's TWO Live updates later and he has STILL not got an update out. I think that's pretty ignorant of Zonx. I moved on to Vert Reborn but will go back to Fetish if he gets his act together and updates his ui. No I don't know how to change a few lines that's WHY I DO use a custom UI, someone has already done it for me. Demanding the users to fix YOUR UI is pretty silly to demand. Spare me the fanboyism please.

Elrathin 04-16-2006 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ykalon
I think it's reasonable to want an update after every LU at least.

Yes, it is reasonable to WANT an update after every LU, but it is not reasonable to DEMAND one, as you have, for a product that you aren't even paying for and for a product that Zonx is effectively doing for free.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ykalon
I think that's pretty ignorant of Zonx.

I think there is some heavy ignorance being displayed alright, but it is not from Zonx.

Zonx: Keep up the good work man, your UI is awesome and I, along with many others, appreciate it. :nana:

Ykalon 04-16-2006 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elrathin
Yes, it is reasonable to WANT an update after every LU, but it is not reasonable to DEMAND one, as you have, for a product that you aren't even paying for and for a product that Zonx is effectively doing for free.



I think there is some heavy ignorance being displayed alright, but it is not from Zonx.

Zonx: Keep up the good work man, your UI is awesome and I, along with many others, appreciate it. :nana:

First of all how can you know wether I've paid or not? Some HAVE paid so that makes it even worse. They have paid for an UI that they barely can use soon since a lot of ui files have been updated. No I haven't paid. I may decide to pay if the ui actually gets updated more often but not before then.

Besides using the it's free argument won't work. Almost all UI's are free and most of them is at least LU 21 compatible and quite a lot LU 22.

Fait 04-16-2006 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ykalon
First of all how can you know wether I've paid or not? Some HAVE paid so that makes it even worse. They have paid for an UI that they barely can use soon since a lot of ui files have been updated. No I haven't paid. I may decide to pay if the ui actually gets updated more often but not before then.

Besides using the it's free argument won't work. Almost all UI's are free and most of them is at least LU 21 compatible and quite a lot LU 22.

I have donated also, but do not feel any right to DEMAND anything. I've been using this UI for almost a year before he even put the donation thing out there. The only piece I'm not using at the moment is the persona because of the zone timers and that's fine by me. If you don't want to use his UI because he doesn't kiss your ass, fine; but please don't come in here and insult the man. I'm going to be extremely pissed if he gives up altogether because a jackass came in here and pissed on everyone's parade. ALL the authors do this for a love of what they do. Not because of your sniveling. If manners is fanboyism, I'll take it any day. Grow up.

Ykalon 04-16-2006 10:25 PM

Zonx makes the best custom UI bar none. Some may have a better journal or a better inventory mode, but total package no one can compete with Fetish. That's pure praise for him and he deserves that. However he now accepts donations which DO put a bit more pressure on him and if he can't handle that when maybe he SHOULD stop. I hope he doesn't since I really don't want to change to any other ui for any longer period, but if he stops, no rain on my parade. I don't demand anything since I don't pay. However I offer to support him and will pay if he shows he's commited to his ui and will make updates as needed.

Btw would like if you could implement t7 rare harvests if you hover mouse pointer over ? in inventory. Would be nice but not essential.

Oh another thing I prefer a functioning but late ui before a buggy on time. So do take the time that is needed. I was really just trying to defend the critisizers:-)

caharin 04-17-2006 06:59 AM

Zonx,

I would like to extend my sincere apperciation for all the work you've done. Many of my guildies (myself included) consider your UI Mod the best avail. Period.

Thanks for all the effort you have put into this project. Please ignore all the whiners. They are are VAST minority in this.

Wynd 04-17-2006 07:34 AM

*shakes her head and wonders how much faster someone can backpedal ?*

Zonx .... been tryin to get into my paypal ....seems the oldest grand ... she lovesss to play at my computer desk .. *all those colored markers and such* ... anyhow .... tryin to find my book with my password .. in meantime ... Ive filled out a form for them to mail me *snailmail of course .... but hey ...least its safer that way* my info ....but I am donating again ...

I for one .... with all the chaos Ive gone thru recently ... understand very well how hard it is to resist jumping right into the game when you do get a bit of time at the computer ....

And for those who don't know .... *you know who you are*

Zonx has until recently been the FIRST to update after a patch .....

Since my mom told me to ignore ignorance .... I won't defend Zonx again against those who spout theirs ... He knows he rules *winks at Zonx* and so do we :)

Wynd

Stilez 04-18-2006 12:06 PM

was just wondering if the guild recruitment tab would be added soon or if it was an automatic added tab?

Great UI and many thanks for the quickness that the main issues get handled with =)

TrulyScrumpshus 04-18-2006 01:08 PM

All I can say is WOW!! O_O
 
First off: Zonx, this UI is IT!! Periodically I change UI's to see what all the rest are doing...then I return to using the BEST!!

Secondly: I can't express in words the amount of appreciation that I feel towards you and the time that you've spent on this UI. If anyone ever took the time, that you have, to build a UI, and I tried, then they'd know how time-consuming this really is and they'd hush and go lay back down by their dish...

You rock! There is nothing else to say after that!

Please keep up the great work because your fan base IS still alive and kicking!!

Donation is on the way...

Trulee appreciative!!

Zonx 04-18-2006 07:46 PM

Status
 
Everything from the last 2 LUs has been incorporated on my end, just want to do a bit of testing and minor tweaks befor I ZIP and post it.

If someone could please post a list of the T7 harvestables, I'll add them to the inventory tooltip.

lordebon 04-18-2006 07:52 PM

Excellent news Zonx =)

Herse the T7 responses (from Milquest infocenter):

* Common:

den - horned pelt, aviak meat, ravasect meat
fish - flying fish
fungi - N/A
ore (hard) - adamantine cluster, porous loam
ore (soft) - azurite cluster, topaz
roots - hanging root
shrub - soaring coffee bean, squash, sweet chai tea leaf, xegonberry
wood - lumbered rosewood

* Uncommon:

any - scintillating (fish scale, flower, stone or tooth)

* Rare:

den - dragonhide
ore (hard) - spongy loam, xegonite cluster
ore (soft) - acrylia cluster, moonstone
roots - nimbus root
wood - lumbered ebony

werwolfsgeist 04-19-2006 10:14 AM

Thx for this update Zonx!

One question.. how can i activate on the persona bar? this is in my opinion one of the greatest features/windows of this ui but since the last update i can`t find it..

Sabina 04-20-2006 07:52 AM

Man, I really don't understand you guys. How can you really be so rabid for this UI that you're willing to stick up for Zonx so? Here's a news flash:

FETISH HASN'T BEEN UPDATED FOR THE LAST 10% OF EQ2'S TOTAL LIFESPAN!!!

Zonx wants to be paid? WTF does Linus Torvalds get paid for the Linux Kernel? Who on earth would develop an EQ2 interface FOR PROFIT? Zonx, you need a reality check. Millions of programmers write code, which is significantly more difficult then editing XML i might add, AND GIVE IT AWAY. Moreover, THEY FIX BUGS AND ADD NEW FEATURES REGULARLY. Even Microsoft GIVES away versions of it Software.

If Zonx thinks that new features like Zone Reuse or Guild Recruiting tools are "not game breaking" he basically tells certain segments of his users that there needs aren't important. When new features that don't work are considered "non game breaking" he is showing that he really doesn't care to maintain this UI.

When I see people like Torvalds who give away massively complicated peices of software for free and then see Zonx complain when people are upset that this abandoned UI hasn't been updated for 10% of EQ2's life cycle, I really see the true underlying arrogance he has. If you want to profit, if you think your time is more valuable, then please quit. Someone else is sure to take Fetish and make it run. Or some other UI modder will create something better.

I, for one, refuse to lick the jack boots of a guy trying to profit off of someone elses' creation. I'm sure SOE wouldn't be to happy if you made Fetish pay to play, would they? And I'm guessing that's why he uses the term "donation" instead of fee, to prevent the lawyers from running him down. So if you guys want to continue kissing up just to have a chance at getting fetish back, so be it. Congratulations, you're weak.

Uggliey 04-20-2006 08:15 AM

And yet you spend the time to post here and bitch about it? Do us all a favor.... don't go away mad, just go away. The people that contnue to use this UI are content to wait for the updates, or mod it them selves. Most of those that aren't, have already (quietly) moved on to another UI. Those few that find them selves ready to start bitching need to step back, see that this is a god damn game, and if you are this uptight about a UI for that game. Then do us all a favor and kindly remove your self from the gene pool. We do not need your ignorance spreading to other generations.

Landiin 04-20-2006 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabina
Hot air

Maybe I am missing something but I don't see Zonx charging any one. I see that he ask for donations for his time spent working on his UI but not demanding payment for use, Linus Torvalds sure took donations and even got paid for his work.

The reality of it is; If you like the UI and wish it would be upgraded faster maybe ask nicely. If you don't like the UI go find one you like and be happy.

dalet62 04-20-2006 09:57 AM

This is my first time posting here, I have been using Fetish Nightfall since I have been playing EQ2. I think it is a great ui in my opinion. And I wish all the bitching and complaining would go and all you idiots that are doing it get off Zonx ass. You know people do have real lives to live we are all not dead beats and live off mommy and daddy and lay around playing video games all day.

Zonx keep up the great work and thanks

realx 04-20-2006 09:58 AM

Sabina go troll somewhere else
guildrecruiting tool is pointless, you can write in your bio any advertisement you want and a /togglezonereusetimer macro does help so thanks for your opinion on this but none wants to hear it give the guy a brake.

There are plenty of other UIs make sure you like them as mutch

bye :D

Dae'lomdel 04-20-2006 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by werwolfsgeist
One question.. how can i activate on the persona bar? this is in my opinion one of the greatest features/windows of this ui but since the last update i can`t find it..

Hit "P" to open up your Persona window, on the title bar of the Persona Window there is a little capital P in a little button.... you may have to resize the window so that the P button is not hidden under "Persona" text. Click on this "P" button to toggle the Person Bar open and closed.

Hope that helps...

kosmetas 04-20-2006 12:21 PM

My jaw-dropped at Sabina's post. :confused: There are truly insane people out there and one of them came to post here.

Keep up the good work Z. :D

lovejoyb20 04-20-2006 01:16 PM

Sabina needs a PVP spanking.
 
Zonx, do what you can, when you can. Most of us realize that this is a small piece of a game we're talking about, not an OS. I would much rather have you take a little while to update than have you quit altogether.

As for Sabina, please let me know where to find you on Nagafen, and I will track you down with the assistance of my highly efficient Fetish UI.

Padiddle - 56 Wizard - Befallen
Puredark - 31 Necromancer - Befallen
Oppressive - 19 Ranger - Nagafen

AbakirkIII 04-20-2006 04:02 PM

Relax or leave!
 
Just goes to show you that some people shouldnt try to play in our world....Getting all jacked up about something they say they dont like but in reality they want it so bad they can't stand it.

So to sum this all up.......Sabina just go away!

Graet job as always Zonx...Love the UI!!!

Sarcus Sarcasticus

Fait 04-20-2006 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabina
Man, I really don't understand you guys. How can you really be so rabid for this UI that you're willing to stick up for Zonx so? Here's a news flash:

Rabid? I've not seen anyone rabid. I've seen people enjoying a UI. It works for me. I like it. I've tried all the other "big name" UI's and they don't work like I like. Zonx's does. Why spend time helping another author do what Zonx already does?


FETISH HASN'T BEEN UPDATED FOR THE LAST 10% OF EQ2'S TOTAL LIFESPAN!!!

And unlike many authors, Zonx had an update that day or the next day for his UI for MANY of the patches that came out.

Zonx wants to be paid? WTF does Linus Torvalds get paid for the Linux Kernel? Who on earth would develop an EQ2 interface FOR PROFIT? Zonx, you need a reality check. Millions of programmers write code, which is significantly more difficult then editing XML i might add, AND GIVE IT AWAY. Moreover, THEY FIX BUGS AND ADD NEW FEATURES REGULARLY. Even Microsoft GIVES away versions of it Software.

While many do that as you say, most of them have a business plan intent on getting people to use the product so they can get dollars later. Even my company does it. It's called a loss leader. We want your business. Linus Torvalds has receive money for his work. Linus has asked for donations. Linus licensed his work so others could carry it out. You don't have to do that. You can build upon Zonx's work now if you like. That unfortunately isn't what you are complaining about. You are complaining because ZONX's hasn't done the work. I imagine if you treated Linus that way, Linux would have been a whole different product.

Zonx isn't doing this for profit. I don't believe he has any illusions that he will be able to quit his job and do this full time. He is asking for donations for the thousands of hours of work he has put into this interface over the course of a year. He's not demanding it. A donation is not necessarily profit. He is also not holding any of us hostage. He will release an update when he's ready to. I wouldn't be surprised after your wonderful bitter backbiting post that he tells us all that it's the last one. Wouldn't blame him if he did.


When I see people like Torvalds who give away massively complicated peices of software for free and then see Zonx complain when people are upset that this abandoned UI hasn't been updated for 10% of EQ2's life cycle, I really see the true underlying arrogance he has. If you want to profit, if you think

You think Torvalds was burned in effigy because the latest version of Linux didn't come out when users thought it should? I doubt it. Most linux users are a grateful bunch. Zonx had every right to complain. He's doing something for free for us and people are harassing him about it. Look up the word donation. You seem to think it's a fee.

I, for one, refuse to lick the jack boots of a guy trying to profit off of someone elses' creation. I'm sure SOE wouldn't be to happy if you made Fetish pay to play, would they? And I'm guessing that's why he uses the term "donation" instead of fee, to prevent the lawyers from running him down. So if you guys want to continue kissing up just to have a chance at getting fetish back, so be it. Congratulations, you're weak.

It's an add-on for their program. I don't think they have a leg to stand on if he did. While it's their program, he's still developing an add-on. If this were the way business was run, Norton couldn't have sold all those AVP's to be run on Windows. Kissing up? Please. I'm using Fetish with no problems. You act like we are desperate for a fix. We aren't. Why? Because nothing was game-breaking like he said. Didn't feel insulted in the least when he said it. He's right and right is right. Later troll.


Please... if anyone else wants to come in here and harass us and Zonx about a UI they apparently have no love for, save yourself time. We really don't care.

AbakirkIII 04-20-2006 09:40 PM

TY Fait
Fantasic post.........Couldnt say it better.
Sarcus Sarcasticus

Zonx 04-21-2006 12:06 AM

Sabina, people like you are no different than the panhandler that rails at me for giving him $1 instead of $5.

Its really very simple... if you don't like the quality of my charity, find another homeless shelter or sleep on the street. Don't stand around complaining that my free hamburger isn't steak :rolleyes:

Alternatively you could try being less of a leech on society and actually pitch in and help improve things you think need improving. Anyone can upload patches to this UI as add-ons. I'm also very receptive to constructive suggestions and requests.

And if you think I'm "profiting" from the donations you're sadly deluded. Donations to date may have finally covered the cost of my accounts and expansions. While I genuinely appreciate the donations, they don't begin to compensate me for the time invested or image editing software.

Oh and FYI, Linus has been making tons of money off Linux for ages. Your lack of business knowledge is only surpassed by your atrocious community conduct.

Zonx 04-21-2006 03:32 AM

Version 6.4 is available for download.

READ THE VERSION NOTES!
Improperly upgrading can result in broken features, particularly the Map.

Version notes

Don't forget to rate the download and add it to your favorites if you haven't already. ;)


Veduren 04-21-2006 09:46 AM

you rock Zonx!

Memzor 04-21-2006 11:36 AM

I guess the .zip hasen't been named correctly, shows 6_3, well tha may happen if you put the package together at 01:00 in the morning =)

Have the personabar buttons been removed? or is there another way to get it back to 1 line..


nevertheless zonx > * :nana:

Zonx 04-21-2006 11:58 AM

Memzor, I sugest you redownload. I just confirmed the ZIP is corectly named 6_4, which leads me to think you're working with an old version. And no the Personabar has not changed. Sizing buttons should still be there.

Memzor 04-21-2006 12:37 PM

Thx for your fast reply... my dl manager screwed the name of the zippy cause the dl id is still the same - my fault :rolleyes:

but the resize buttons are missing here *strange*
I deleted the folder, made a new one, used eq2map updater afterwards and then copied all the files from the fetish folder over it. recruitment tab etc is working.. hm, what could i have done wrong? :eek:

doctorbob 04-21-2006 01:17 PM

:nana: Thank You! :nana:

chuesgen 04-21-2006 02:29 PM

I honestly think that Sabina was just trolling, not even worth a reply. Thank you again Zonx I really enjoy the UI and appreciate all the work that you put into it.

Drizzic

Makhail 04-21-2006 03:51 PM

All I can say is "wow". Love what you have done with this new update!

Thank you very very much for the UI. It is amazing!

Aerokella 04-21-2006 04:58 PM

I have noticed that when I use the cure poison from the cure bar, it first casts my biggest heal, then casts cure poison. Is this supposed to happen, and is there a way that I can make it cast just cure poison?

magic869 04-21-2006 08:49 PM

map
 
i have followed the instructions and not my map is all white with colored dots on it. how do i fix it? have uninstalled and reinstalled eq2 map and updated several times. it is not all maps just some like peat bog :nana:

on and by the was awsome job on the ui :nana:

matrixx 04-21-2006 08:52 PM

Thank you very much.


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