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LizardKin 08-19-2010 04:45 PM

When GU57 went live yesterday, my EQ2Maps worked fine, the 'black box' issue started today after I ran my EQ2Map updater. So whatever is causing this issue is a result of a change made between then and now. I have yet to find a solution to this issue, so I'm running blind map-wise, unless someone has a suggestion. Would be highly appreciated.

Dethdlr 08-19-2010 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirara (Post 92259)
Have the same problem and no clue. i think its a SOE problem - deleting of the map window settings in the xml file was no help but to translocate the map windows to the standard positions. There are other smal problems with the same UI (Fetish) too. I have the problems with the black maps und a guildmate have a problem with the spell progress bar - we both have the same Fetish UI. So I think SOE has a big problem to fix.

From poking around a bit, it looks like others are having that same problem with other UIs as well.

Did you have any customizations or add-ons for Fetish before the update or were you using the standard install? Generally speaking, for any window that doesn't work when a new update comes out, just rename or delete it out of the FetishNightfall folder and it will revert back to the default one until Zonx get a new version out.

I haven't logged in since this morning's patch so I don't know if anything changed today that may have caused things to go haywire. I should be home in about 90 mins and will see if everything is still working on my copy.

Kirara 08-19-2010 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dethdlr (Post 92261)
Did you have any customizations or add-ons for Fetish before the update or were you using the standard install? Generally speaking, for any window that doesn't work when a new update comes out, just rename or delete it out of the FetishNightfall folder and it will revert back to the default one until Zonx get a new version out.

I only have Fetish + mapupdater, no customizations or add-ons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dethdlr (Post 92261)
I haven't logged in since this morning's patch so I don't know if anything changed today that may have caused things to go haywire. I should be home in about 90 mins and will see if everything is still working on my copy.

This patch will go online on the european servers in about 6 hours - I hope that will fix the problem. If not i will delete all the map stuff or try the standard ui map first and redownload the entire files.

Savie 08-19-2010 05:21 PM

My map is working fine, I haven't updated it in a week at least. I'd suggest that those of you that have updated the maps since the GU went live to try going in and renaming any files that have the most recent date on them and see if that fixes your problem.

Dethdlr 08-19-2010 06:20 PM

Just got home and checked and my map is still working fine. I'm always a bit skittish though when an update comes out. I only touch what I have to so I haven't run the EQ2Map updater since before GU57 came out.

Did those that are having map problems run the updater since GU57 came out?

Dethdlr 08-19-2010 06:45 PM

Yup. I just ran the updater and my maps are now black boxes as well. I made a copy before I started so hopefully I can put a patch up soon to undo the changes. More to follow...

garylian 08-19-2010 07:32 PM

Yeah, I let the updater run today, and it hosed my map/mini-map as well. And when I loaded the default UI so I could play, everything else went to pot. I feel bad for the great UI developers here that work so hard, only to see SOE blow everything up for something lousy.

I can't even function properly on the broker with the default UI. It's barbaric.

Dethdlr 08-19-2010 07:53 PM

MAP FIX! You can now (as soon as it gets approved) download the Fetish GU57 Bandaid v1.3 to fix your maps. Just unzip the whole thing into your FetishNightfall folder and run GU57BandaidMap.bat. Then don't run the map updater until after Zonx has pushed the next release.

garylian 08-19-2010 08:09 PM

Well, once it is approved! Thx for the update!

Dethdlr 08-19-2010 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garylian (Post 92282)
Well, once it is approved! Thx for the update!

Very welcome. And it's been approved now. Hope it works for you.

Darklord8969 08-19-2010 11:22 PM

Thanx heaps Dethdlr the bandaind worked for me will do till the zonk does his thing for the best ui in the game :nana:

Tolaris 08-20-2010 03:31 AM

Important: Level Ups and HotBars
 
On 3 different systems only using fetish (with filename changes for gu57) we all are having the same problem, when you level up, it randomly sticks the newly aquired Comabt Art, Ability, or Spell over an existing hotbar button... e.g. if not familiar with the hotbar, must figure out what button it took out to put the new ability on the hotbar... if this had only been on one system, would have thought it might be a bug or something, but since its happening on all 3 systems, I thought it would be worth mentioning while the update is under construction (or to see if anyone else was also having this issue)...

Have tried it with locked and unlocked windows, etc... and it seems to do it whether the window is locked or unlocked....

Hoping the update fixes this or someone may know how to prevent this... Leveling is becoming an issue of having to screenshot the hotbars to ensure you dont lose the buttons when you level up....

Ixoa 08-20-2010 06:06 AM

Just a tip the 2 files from the eq2map updater that change the view are

Skinnable_Windowelements.xml
Skinnable_WindowelementsMini.xml

Just make them both read only and you can update the map as normal without fear of it overwriting the image.Have done this with profit as I use that and works fine.
:)

Dethdlr 08-20-2010 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ixoa (Post 92301)
Just a tip the 2 files from the eq2map updater that change the view are

Skinnable_Windowelements.xml
Skinnable_WindowelementsMini.xml

Just make them both read only and you can update the map as normal without fear of it overwriting the image.Have done this with profit as I use that and works fine.
:)

Although those may also cause problems, those are not the files that caused the issue with FetishNightfall. The file that caused my fetish issues was eq2ui_mainhud_map2.xml. That's also the main file that EQ2Maps says was updated. This is the one that the GU57 bandaid replaces with the pre-GU57 version.

Landiin 08-20-2010 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dethdlr (Post 92315)
Although those may also cause problems, those are not the files that caused the issue with FetishNightfall. The file that caused my fetish issues was eq2ui_mainhud_map2.xml. That's also the main file that EQ2Maps says was updated. This is the one that the GU57 bandaid replaces with the pre-GU57 version.

The only thing that changed with eq2ui_mainhud_map2.xml is the Z order of the the two files listed. Them main change was in Skinnable_WindowelementsMini.xml. ultimately you want to use EQ2MAP's ingorelist xml file to block files from being updated.

Dethdlr 08-20-2010 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Landiin (Post 92316)
The only thing that changed with eq2ui_mainhud_map2.xml is the Z order of the the two files listed. Them main change was in Skinnable_WindowelementsMini.xml. ultimately you want to use EQ2MAP's ingorelist xml file to block files from being updated.

Agreed. I had all the xml files except eq2ui_mainhud_map2.xml in the ignore list already. When I ran the updater and compared my pre-update folder to my post-update folder, eq2ui_mainhud_map2.xml was the only xml file that had changed and my maps were nothing but black boxes. I replaced that with the pre-update version and the maps were back up and running for Fetish. As a general rule, I don't run the updater after a GU until Zonx has pushed a new version that fixes everything.

Sariana57 08-20-2010 10:27 AM

To be honest, I am scared to log in again. I did briefly and was so lost with the new UI. I am waiting until Fetish is updated...

Thank you for all your work on this UI, it is GREATLY appreciated!

Reaperfrog 08-20-2010 10:35 AM

bandaid 1.3
 
thx for that updated bandaid, did the trick and maps r working now. Just waitin for Zonx to work his magic with the full ui now. Used this ui since i started playing years ago. Thx for all the work Zonx :-)

Dethdlr 08-20-2010 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sariana57 (Post 92321)
To be honest, I am scared to log in again. I did briefly and was so lost with the new UI. I am waiting until Fetish is updated...

Thank you for all your work on this UI, it is GREATLY appreciated!

Grab the bandaid. With that, you'll be fine until Zonx pushes the next release.

If you haven't run the map updater then all you have to do is drop GU57Bandaid.bat into your FetishNightfall folder and run it.

If you HAVE run the map updater, drag the entire contents of the .zip file into your FetishNightfall folder, run GU57Bandaid.bat and GU57BandaidMap.bat.

Read the .txt file in the .zip file for a few tips but it's not really needed. It just tells you to right click the maintaind spells window and choose Hide Text and tells you to right click the XP bar, choose Minimize, and to drag it away from the bottom to resize it. Pretty simple stuff.

lordebon 08-20-2010 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tolaris (Post 92296)
On 3 different systems only using fetish (with filename changes for gu57) we all are having the same problem, when you level up, it randomly sticks the newly aquired Comabt Art, Ability, or Spell over an existing hotbar button... e.g. if not familiar with the hotbar, must figure out what button it took out to put the new ability on the hotbar... if this had only been on one system, would have thought it might be a bug or something, but since its happening on all 3 systems, I thought it would be worth mentioning while the update is under construction (or to see if anyone else was also having this issue)...

Have tried it with locked and unlocked windows, etc... and it seems to do it whether the window is locked or unlocked....

Hoping the update fixes this or someone may know how to prevent this... Leveling is becoming an issue of having to screenshot the hotbars to ensure you dont lose the buttons when you level up....

That is not a bug within Fetish, it's a bug within how SOE's code is deciding which spell is an upgrade of another. They have to fix that, not something we can fix.

Wynd 08-20-2010 11:05 AM

Ahhh my dear Zonx ... another donation in your paypal ...
I realize how much work this is for you and how it takes time away from your family and other things you wish to do ...
I know this cause my hubby is constantly on call to friends and family to fix their computers and / or walk them thru things on the phone ... even while we are eating dinner or on vacation !!!

You are much appreciated .... and I hope others take the time to let you know how much your UI enhances their play, with a little donation also ...

HUGS dear friend ... without your UI my play would not give me near as much pleasure and be so easy on the my eyes

As always ....and you know ... YOU ROCK !!!!

PS to others ... He no longer plays EQ2 .. but being the awesome person he is ... he has been keeping up with this UI for LONG time ... so if you have a couple bucks ... send it to him ... let him know you appreciate his time and loyalty to those of us who use this UI .... *shrug* .... just my two cents ...

Wynd

Thought just in case it was missed on the other forum I would repost it here for those that use Fetish ... just so they might send some monetary thanks Zonx's way ... Because frankly ... I can hardly bear to play without this UI and its worth every penny Ive sent ... especially since he doesn't play and has no dog in this fight so to speak ... does it only for us ...

Penebo 08-20-2010 04:03 PM

when the new comes out the final version to download of fetish?

Evenrute 08-20-2010 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynd (Post 92329)
Ahhh my dear Zonx ... another donation in your paypal ...

PS to others ... He no longer plays EQ2 .. but being the awesome person he is ... he has been keeping up with this UI for LONG time ... so if you have a couple bucks ... send it to him ... let him know you appreciate his time and loyalty to those of us who use this UI .... *shrug* .... just my two cents ...

Wynd

Thought just in case it was missed on the other forum I would repost it here for those that use Fetish ... just so they might send some monetary thanks Zonx's way ... Because frankly ... I can hardly bear to play without this UI and its worth every penny Ive sent ... especially since he doesn't play and has no dog in this fight so to speak ... does it only for us ...

I did not know he stopped playing. I have been selfishly sapping off his works for years. I have finally 'ante upped' and kicked in. Thanks Zonx!

joas 08-20-2010 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tolaris (Post 92296)
On 3 different systems only using fetish (with filename changes for gu57) we all are having the same problem, when you level up, it randomly sticks the newly aquired Comabt Art, Ability, or Spell over an existing hotbar button... e.g. if not familiar with the hotbar, must figure out what button it took out to put the new ability on the hotbar... if this had only been on one system, would have thought it might be a bug or something, but since its happening on all 3 systems, I thought it would be worth mentioning while the update is under construction (or to see if anyone else was also having this issue)...

Have tried it with locked and unlocked windows, etc... and it seems to do it whether the window is locked or unlocked....

Hoping the update fixes this or someone may know how to prevent this... Leveling is becoming an issue of having to screenshot the hotbars to ensure you dont lose the buttons when you level up....

Its not a bug from the UI or on SoE side, it was included in the update notes...

"If a new spell is a newer version of an old spell on your hotbar it will replace the older version rather than adding a new button on your hotbar."

it's a feature now.

Dethdlr 08-20-2010 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joas (Post 92348)
Its not a bug from the UI or on SoE side, it was included in the update notes...

"If a new spell is a newer version of an old spell on your hotbar it will replace the older version rather than adding a new button on your hotbar."

it's a feature now.

Assuming it is working as intended and not replacing the WRONG spell, let me add a bit of clarification from SmokeJumper:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeJumper
The general rule of thumb is that if a spell is upgraded to Expert or above, then it is not replaced by the next update.

Now, if it's replacing OTHER spells/CAs, that would be a bug of some sort.

Wynd 08-20-2010 08:32 PM

It just hit me that I was very very ungrateful and rude ...

Thank you so very much Dethdir for your "bandaid" and helping everyone keep playing till Zonx gets the update done ...

You are very kind and thoughtful to keep us from goin nuts in the meantime :)

*full curtsey to Dethdir* Thank you again !!!! and again !!!!

Hugs a bunches :nana:

lewish 08-20-2010 08:37 PM

Many thanks to all
 
First of all, I want to thank Zonx for keeping this going..he has way more knowledge and devotes time I can't imagine to keeping this up. I have donated in the past and will again because I love his UI...

Thanks also to Dethdlr for the bandaids. They all worked..except the map one does not seem to be working for me...but I'm going to try reapplying it. I have been using Fetish for 4-5 years and love it.

Thanks again to all who help with this.

Marius/Samiur
90 pally/warlock
Nektulos Server

Tolaris 08-21-2010 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dethdlr (Post 92350)
Assuming it is working as intended and not replacing the WRONG spell, let me add a bit of clarification from SmokeJumper:



Now, if it's replacing OTHER spells/CAs, that would be a bug of some sort.

It is replacing "random" CA's, spells, etc as specified in the original post about this issue... Not sure where the bug lies, soe, ui, or what, but its a royal pita to level up with it doing what its doing :( Having to screen shot each level to ensure the leveling process doesnt overlap any needed CA's :(

Kirara 08-21-2010 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dethdlr (Post 92281)
download the Fetish GU57 Bandaid v1.3 to fix your maps

Thx for the map fix :)

Penebo 08-21-2010 09:41 AM

hm when comes the part on to download ? i dont understand it and i need the fetish ui update ;) hope it comes soon..

Dethdlr 08-21-2010 11:50 AM

To all those sending thanks my way, you're very welcome. I love this UI as well and don't know how I would play without it. I'm glad I've been able to help some others out with the bandaid.

To those who are still having issues with the map: I just uploaded GU57 Bandaid v1.4 that replaces more of the map files with their original versions. Once it gets approved, grab the latest .zip file, unzip the whole thing into your FetishNightfall folder, and run GU47BandaidMap.bat. This version also includes/replaces the ignore list file so you should be able to run the map updater if you choose without it messing up your maps again.

To anyone that has used the bandaid so far: I had no idea this thing would be as popular as it has turned out to be. Based on it's popularity, I'm considering making this a regular thing for new releases. Each time a new release comes out, I'll post a bandaid to get us back up and running until Zonx pushes a new release. Sound like a good idea?

Dethdlr 08-21-2010 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tolaris (Post 92359)
It is replacing "random" CA's, spells, etc as specified in the original post about this issue... Not sure where the bug lies, soe, ui, or what, but its a royal pita to level up with it doing what its doing :( Having to screen shot each level to ensure the leveling process doesnt overlap any needed CA's :(

This was posted on the forums about an hour ago:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gninja
There is actually a bug currently where spells and/or abilities are replacing the wrong versions. We are looking into it. The way it should work is it should only replace it if it actually a higher quality spell of the same type.

Not sure if that's what's causing your problems or not but it does seem as though something isn't quite working as intended. :(

Wynd 08-21-2010 12:22 PM

Sounds fantastic to me !!!! :cool:

You will be loved by thousands ... lol

Thank you again and again and again :D

Keep us all from goin thru withdrawls after updates till Zonx can get updated.... cause usually I just dont play at all till he fixes what SoE has broken ....

Much appreciated !!! HUGS :)

Penebo 08-21-2010 12:33 PM

hm dont works for me

Dethdlr 08-21-2010 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penebo (Post 92394)
hm dont works for me

If you're talking about the latest fix for the maps, that version hasn't been approved yet. Once v1.4 is approved, give it a try.

Unzip everything to your FetishNightFall folder

Run GU57Bandaid.bat and GU57BandaidMap.bat

Should get it up and running. But not until v1.4 gets approved.

Dethdlr 08-21-2010 01:03 PM

v1.4 is now approved. For those that were still having map issues, let me know if this version fixes them.

karlheinz 08-21-2010 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zonx (Post 92244)
RE Inventory: using /show_window Inventory.Inventory brings up the old window, but the icon data is dead, so its useless. The "I" keybind for Inventory no longer functions and was removed from the Options window.

So no, we can't continue to use the separate Inventory window. Don't ask me why SOE couldn't just leave the old window in place for those that wanted to stick with it.

what would really be great, is if you could use the "talk to rothgar"-section in here to ask to get the "old" inventory window filled with data to be still useable. its not that this would confuse those casual players theyre apparently trying to attract with these eq2x-changes because the window would still be invisible to anyone that does not have "show_inventory yadda" bound to whatever key he likes

Tolaris 08-21-2010 08:40 PM

Thanks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dethdlr (Post 92391)
This was posted on the forums about an hour ago:


Not sure if that's what's causing your problems or not but it does seem as though something isn't quite working as intended. :(

Ahh, yes exactly the problem... Thanks for the quote from the official forums... Guess I will continue to ss each level until they get it fixed, I image it wont take them long as this is a heavy hit to people not as experienced to the game as some... again, thx for the heads up...

karlheinz 08-22-2010 07:01 AM

btw, any way to directly apply the performance profiles that used to reside within the eq2 start button? talking about the infocenter\miscellany\displayprofiles\ things here

always having trouble translating actual file names to ingame's /show_window syntax

Zonx 08-22-2010 10:43 AM

Version 11.6 released.

Unfortunately I did not have time to implement a replacement for the performance and volume settings, but it should be easy enough to port the old window to a custom window opened by the new Launcher.

For now, you should be able to manually open the old window with the following
Code:

/show_window MainHUD.StartButton
Caps matter

You can also save/load your own performance settings via the buttons at the bottom of GameOptions.

And for yet another alternative, the stock Fetish performance settings can be found in the Infocenter.


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