BAH, you beat me to everything! how dare you!! Answering your own thread, the nerve!

Yes, in my edit of my post I said I'd found the solution for the pulsing/blinking/ annoying-dirve-me-up-a-wall-and-go-coocoo thing.

Now I'm just dealing with certain frames that are deleting themselves/moving themselves when I log-in/go from windowed-fullscreen. For instance, my entire second chat box is completely gone every single time I re-login. Even when I call it back up, it's position and size are reset completely.

And then my third hotbar, resized into 4x3 (across x down) and pushed up against the left side of the screen (putting the page arrows off the screen) keeps pushing itself out to give the arrows room, but on the 1st and 2nd hotbar, doing the same thing, it leaves them alone.

As it is, I have to redo half my UI every time I log in and that just makes the rest of the session kinda problematic cause I'm already pissed off about my UI not saving itself. Does anyone here know if a second chat box is deleted on login with the standard EQ UI or not? I really doubt it's a standard problem since there are a lot of mod preview pics out there with multiple chat boxes.

The only reason I'm not posting there is because This is the cleanest, most complete mod I've seen. Nothing I hate more than downloading a mod only to find out only half my visible frames take on the new style.

So, excuse me for being a pain here but from my point of view, it's either I use a Fetish style, or I don't use mods period unless of course something else comes out that prooves itself better, which I doubt will happen anytime soon.



If it helps, I followed some instructions somewhere to remove a certain file from the build that would stop the chat boxes from hiding the edit-space and scroll bar/chat options button when mouse wasn't on it, and I'm running my chat boxes on frame-only mode right next to eachother. So, except for the visual style, and the position of the scroll-bar (right side instead of the default left) they're standard.


Edit - I noticed a reply suggesting that I delete my character settings file and set it all up again. No effect at all. Things are still resetting on login, and now my 2nd hotbar is repositioning itself too -_-

And the flashing I was experiencing was with all the latest patches and fixes and all that. I haven't noticed anything new in the last day up on the downloads, so either I am using the latest build or someone forgot to make it obvious that the build had been updated?


Edit 2 - I went back and deleted all my character setting files and attemtpted to reset them all again, and it got worse. now both my chat boxes reset themselves on login. I can't play this game whene every single time I log in, my UI is fecked up and I know for certain I didn't used to loose everything before installing this mod. I'm just gonna have to go back and suffer with hotbars that are way too huge and a target bar that refuses to update the bracket image no matter what I do until this mod starts to let me create a UI that actually stays put when I set it up.

Hmm, I hadnt though of you having more than one character, or it only effecting one character. Try this: Restore the file of the one that was working. Copy, paste elsewhere. Rename to affected character. Move to folder. Only thing I can think of.

nope, that was what I'd done originally before I even noticed any problems. I wanted to make a new character and I was tired of having to redo my entire IU every time I did that. I think i'm gonna have to just got back to the original EQ2 UI until the modding community can figure out how to modify frames without breaking them.

Shohanna, any window can be made persistant by adding
to the very first page object. If that object already has an OnHide value, insert visible=true after the opening quote followed by a line break.

Thank You very much..
I love your Mod.. I can deal with the few bugs I get. Alot better then the Default UI.. /nod

Shohanna

How ungreatful, especially seeing as it seems to be a problem on your end.

Using the Bagmod.
 

The instructions said to not drop items on to the small icons, for the ammo, bags ect that is with the UI. That it crashes EQ2. Are you working on making these useable, and just have not been able to? I am curious b/c I love the idea of being able to have my inventory visible, but not expanded, and making it easier to access certain windows.

I was just wondering is all.. it's not a problem that I can't use them as i wanted.

Shohanna
Dreamvision
18 cleric
19 scholar

Heh.

Precicely. There is nothing wrong with the mod. Telling Zonx he does faulty coding is like trying to say the sky is pink. I talked to Zonx today, and its definately something wrong with your settings, especially with the 2nd chat window not saving. Only thing I can tell you is to trash your settings, trash your folder, and start afresh.

The bag shrip merely duplicates the bags in your inventory. It also spans accross branches. In UI Builder the inventory pages are a seperate category then most of the windows, which are under Mainhud. THe problem lies in the fact that zonx duplicates inventory stuff with a special window in the mainhud. in any case, this is not possible as of yet. Sorry. Personally I dont even use it. I always have my inventory shrunk and minimized. Its almost precicely the save thing. AND you can drag and drop to it.

I don't understand what kind of high feeling you people get by telling me I'm ungrateful. I set up the mod, I log off, i log on, and it's RESET. I'm not saying ANYTHING about faulty coding, but from all the reading on mods I've done, I cna see that it is VERY EASY to break something, so I'm reporting something that is broken. I love this mod, but I can't use it when I have to resetup my UI every single time I log in. Can you honestly tell me you would enjoy redoing your UI every single time you log in? Lets say you go linkdead...oh yay, I get to REDO MY UI while trying to dodge whatever happened to spawn on top of me while I was trying to log back in. HOW FUN right?

Eesh. I didn't create this problem, I'm not just complaining for the hell of it. I have a legitimate problem here and I want the coder to know about it. that's IT. I don't deserve to be pounded into the ground cause you wanna feel better about yourself.


I don't understand either why you REFUSE/ TO READ WHAT I AM TYPING HERE! I've deleted my settings files countless times, redone my UI countless times. if the coder says it's something wrong with my settings, maybe the coder can be more SPECIFIC so I have some clue what EXACTLY I'm being told to do. I've done EVERYTHING you've told me to do OVER AND OVER and NOTHING HELPS. If you're gonna try and be helpful, you might consider first of all NOT going after me for my apparent ungratefulness and try telling me exactly what my problem is instead of just telling me to do the same erxact, non-working thing over and over and over and over!

This has to be the most hostile group of mod supporters I've ever seen. one person has a perticularly difficult problem to track down and he gets beat up on as if it were his fault. If anything you're doing a good job showing just why someone shouldn't try this mod.

The problem is that this problem is on YOUR end. The UI works fine. Tons of people are using it without problems. What you need to do is trash you install of the game and start from scratch again.

One thing to remember is once you have reinstalled EVERYTHING from scratch (deleted your entire Everquest II) and ran EQ2Map updater, you must log in setup everything how you like and at least once camp to desktop, not just quit for all the settings to save properly.

Once again, you were complaining about Mods not knowing how to code without breaking frames when nothing is wrong with the mod and this issue is isolated to YOUR PC. Just start the whole EQ2 install from scratch and install the mod and all your issues should disappear.

Perhaps you aren't seeing the percieved attitude you are giving off. Yes, I can see that you are frustrated. Everybody gets frustrated from time to time. Remember, that this UI is a GIFT to you. It' cost you absolutely nothing to receive. Nobody is making you use a custom UI. Sony provides you with one. If you choose to use a custom UI you must keep in mind that the person providing you with it has put in a HELLUVA lot of hours building, debugging, mantaining and updating it with each patch that Sony puts out.

I think this is the best UI out there and it fits my needs well. I, like many others aren't experiencing problems with it. But, if you have a bug you need to report please keep in mind to be precise, accurate and most of all patient. Neither Zonx, nor any other modder is out there to serve you, me, or anyone else. This is provided out of kindness. So, please be patient. They have jobs, real lives, and of course games to play, just like you, me and everyone else. So, please don't expect them to drop everything to immediately solve a problem you are having. PATIENCE is a virtue. Please to be virtuos.

Just remember its not WHAT you say but HOW you say it that causes 99% of communication problems.

I found the best was to almost guarantee my UI saves correctly is to /camp and then exit the game. Never use /quit or /camp desktop it so oftem doesn't save anything.

Also I always zone at least once after redoing a UI.

This UI so far has proven to be one of the most bug free and well written since EQ1 let alone EQ2.

This is the part that is causing people to get defensive. That implies that Zonx can't figure out how to mod frames without breaking them. How else is anyone supposed to take that? We can read what you are typing.

Anyway, to try to help out with your problem of the chat windows, I remember a while back I had to go into my eq2_recent.ini file and look for a line that referred to chatfontsize=XX (I had changed one of my combat spam windows to have small text) Delete that line from the file.

Seems to be a bug on Sony's end (Not Zonx's) where whenever you change a chat font size, then reposition windows, it won't save them. You may also want to delete the uisettings.ini files for your characters before entering the game, then position everything where you want it, the camp and exit. Do all of that before adjusting font sizes.

Maybe a provisional fix Gaal
 

On past days, something similar happens to more people, since a SOE bug when added the tabbed chat features.

Try to place all your windows, and then, while online, go to your char_server_eq2ui settings file and right click; then on properties made it no writable (check read only). maybe it can work until a new version is released.

When a new version is released, i'll try to delete all and start a new complete install of EQ2, or at least a new complete install of the UI.

PD: ensure your setting file have been saved before make it "read only"; you can do that, zoning before change its properties.

this is only an idea, and don't know if it can work for you, but it's possible. At least this work when mod chats where bugged some days ago.

PD2: great mod at all, whith any problem for me at least.

Not sure if anyone else suggested this or not but could the directory be set to read only and that might be the reason the settings are not saving? Also if they are not the logged in as administrator, this can also cause a problem. I had this issue until I deleted the .Net user on my XP machine, after getting rid of that user everything seemed to save perfectly fine. The only issue I'm having now is that my group windows aren't functioning correctly. I read earlier up that there was a fix in the works for this going in. :) Will this also address the auto assist in the group window? Sorry if this has been addressed already, its early and I haven't finished my 1st cup of coffee yet!

Windows Not Saving Fix
 

Ok folks, lets not turn this into a flame thread. I'm sure Gaal is just frustrated.

Gaal, the symptoms you describe are almost certainly a result of a SOE bug that corupts server_settings.ini files. The corruption is an intermitent bug that can occur on 1 or more characters at any point and seams to be more prevelent on new toons (where a settings file did not exist prior to the tabbed chat patch). Once the corruption occures, deleting the corrupted file often doesn't fix the problem, SOE just pipes down another corrupted file. This bug will cause ANY UI, including default, to forget window settings.

Fix: the file attached to THIS POST is reported to be bug free. Replace server_settings.ini files for any toons having this problem. You'll have to reposition windows after installing this file.

Note: this is a SOE bug not specific to my UI. I post this fix as a courtesy to users of my UI. Please don't imply this bug or any issues with this fix are a shortcomming on my part or a problem with my UI. Also note this fix does not prevent future corruption of the same type.

The above fix was done by me - I had the SAME problem a while back, and this fixed it. Its a SOE issue.


One thing has resurfaced since I did that - my new 24-space Teak boxes relocate themselves consistently toward the bottom of the screen from where I had them. Same goes for my new 14 space bags.

Are there issues with the bigger bagx/boxes to where they do not stay put - excepting that they go down by 1-2 slots woth of distance every single time?

Thanks for the reply Zonx! never knew there was an option for that

Incredible UI, I hope that this stays for a long time - best UI out there imo

Tried reading thru all of the posts here and didn't see my issue, If I missed it really sorry about that. When I open up my mail items the text doesn't seem to be wrapping. I see the first line but nothing else. If I put in the default mod then it wraps around and I can see the lines of text.

thanks

Zenoxx, I think this is the fix for your problem with the mail

Any fix for the bags not staying where I put them? They always seem to be moving down the screen fro where I wanted them.

I had thisproblem before 3.6, updated and its still there. it seems to happen only to the 24 space boxes and 14 space bags

thankx Fbaggy and Zonx guess I missed that post, Works great once again.

Chumba, its probably the same bug. All my teaks stay put on my main toon. I have teaks in all bank and house slots.

I sure wish SOE would fix this. I hate having to redo all my windows after loading the settings file. Have they even acknowledged this is their bug?

And while I'm on SOE's case: speaking as a Coercer, I want my "live update" spell timers back dammit! (The mouse-over just doesnt cut it when you have multiple mezzes running, and are trying to assist in combat)

/sigh

Bag/Chat solution
 

Zonx - you may want to talk to the board admins here and make a sticky thread (and a download section!) from the posts on how to fix the "screwed ini file" (and list of things that show that you have a bugged file).

That might help keep some of the mess out of the interface threads - after all, its not the interface, its SOE's error.


DISREGARD the above.... Read below:

I went ahead and uploaded it (giving credit to Binton) to the "Interface Parts" Download area - in the "Misc" category.

At least there, we can throw a link and so can other interfaces that are having this SOE problem pop up in their bug threads

Anyone have anything to add, go look there and post to the thread.

OOps - one other thing (seperate post, seperate topic)

The "p" bar keeps defaulting to state 2 and spilling off the side of my screen (meaningn I have to take it down, bring it back up, change mode to where I wnat it, then reposition it, every time I log ion on that toon) - is there a way to make it stay the way I last set it?

I cant make it just a straight defualt because I use different modes for different toons: I have one toon where its set up in mode 1, and another where its set up 2 (caster versus melee type = different layouts)

And again, Zonx - thanks for this mod; I would have a really hard time playing this game without it.

If you are having non-Mod related UI problems, here is your solution. Please check it out.

http://www.eq2interface.com/download...fo.php?id=3822

OK - I did the file download, rearranged my stuff, logged out. Then Log back in - and the bags are ALL much lower, and the boxes on the right are moved further down.

So I renamed my ModUI directory, logged in set the bags, logged out, logged back in and they stayed put.

Then I relogged with the CustomUI installed, and they weremessed up again.

So Zonx, there's something going on with the bags/boxes that is related to the mod. I'll report more once I find more. I may use bags from another mod to see if its specific to this mod, or its a bug that hits all mods (i.e. SOE has something on some accounts that hoses up the ini file no matter what you do).

OK...

I popped in the jaxel-skinned-bag 3/4 (6 wide), and the bags and boxes stayed put.

So its not all mods - and its not neccesarily the UI. Zonx I think you may have some very subtle bug with the height calculations for the bags and the way the system places them.

Let me know if there is any testing I can do to help.

....

Update: It seems to do this with 4-wide layout 3/4. 6-wide layout (3/4 and full) seem to work fine (from other mods). Do you have a "6-wide-fetish-bag for the FetishUI that I could test? :confused:

Version 4.0 Released
 

Version 4.0 is available for download.

Version notes

Note: If you're using one of the Goth Themes, you will need to download the 4.0 version of that theme in addition to the main download.

Don't forget to rate the download and add it to your favorites if you haven't already ;)

Any chance of updating the 133% versions of player and target windows (if they need to be updated)?

EDIT: blah, forgot he changed the targets a bit. Ignore me ;)

Pieces will be updated.

Only the Assist button OnPress commands were changed in the 133% windows. If yah can't wait for the update, just pull the button scripts out of the standard files.

Noticed after install today that the map window will not open to scroll down between maps. No matter where I put my cursor, its a move only thing. Gonna try replacing it with previous eq2_mainhud_map.xml, see if that helps, but just an FYI. If it is possibly something I my end let me know so i can fix it if you would. Thanx Zonx for a beautiful UI. :) Edit* Nevermind was a bad map.xml, reloaded thru EQ2Map and works fine now.

hiropo, I don't understand the problem, please clarify. There's no scrolling anywhere in the map window except the dropdown menus, which should be working. Talyn's plugin crops the map and should show buttons for changing quadrants when you mouseover the upper left corner. If you're not seeing Talyn's buttons, chances are you're missing minimap_widgets.tga from your images directory.

nah Zonx it was a /bonk thing :eek: I replaced my map.xml after i had the install up and running by accident, pulling my hotkey and persona settings from old UI. Apparently I messed something up in it, and the drop downs wouldnt function. Re-ran EQMap and it replaced the mainhud and all is right in the world again :D

Zonx:

Just installed a scratch 4.0, and the bags do NOT stay put.

1280x1024 resolution, using whatever is in the zip - I completely backed up my previosu modUI, and installed this from scratch along with the eq2map. The only non-Fetish-NightFall thing I put in was Goldi's start button.

When I log out and log back in, the bags are all at the bottom of the screen, moved down by the entire bags's height.

I have full bank inventory of teak/24's boxes and toon inventory strengthened/14's bags.

laid out like this:

B=Box
b=bag

Chat and target windows in black bar
1 inch black bar
B B B B
B B B B
B B B B
a slightly wider gap
b b b b b b
1 inch black bar
Goldi's button, 3 sets of hotkeys, thin persona bar (mode 2), XP bar (half height so it has only 1 type of XP showing), casting progess bar, and inventory (when collapsed and shrunk) in bottom black bar area.

Boxes are set to have 5px spacing l-r and t-b
ALso tried it with boxes toching on all available sides on that layout, with tops almsot touching the black bar above them

Bags set same way - didn't help so I also set them as touching l-r, no effect

I put someone else's 6-wide in there, and they stay put, no matter how I lay them out (L-r toudhing up down, overlap etc).

I put the originals of Fetish in there and they all go way lower.

I even went so far as to restore my player .ini file, and that didnt work to solve the "bags move down" problem with Fetish. This has to be something about how it is calculating the height of the boxes and then forcing some sort of autolayout for the bags, which pushes them further down the page. The amount they move is about equal to the extra rows the boxes would need if they were 3 rows of 28 (or more) space boxes.

Please advise on how to proceed - let me know if there are edits I can test, or alternate versions I can DL to test. And let me know if you want before/after screenshots (be sure to show where to upload them to you if you do).

I can stay with the alternate bags for now, but I'd much rather have the stuff that works match up to the UI.

Other than that, I like all the changes, especially the compass (now matches rather nicely with the clock, bubble at each end), and the quest-helper scroller is awesome (no more need to block half my screen with the quest jounral window!)!

Resolution
 

I love this UI, played few hours with it yesterday. Will add some other add ons today.

But I have small problem. I play on a 24" screen with resolution of 1920x1200. The first screen and the char select screens are all of center. They are down and to the right. Is there a way to fix this? I don't know if it was something I did, when I applied other add ons, will go back to the default fetish and add one at time. But if some one knows a quick solution, pls let me know. :)

Thanks in advance.

Max

Open the file called (IIRC) eq2ui_newcharscene.xml
and change the Size property to:

Size=1920x1200

And see if that doesnt help.

I did that and it crashed my game trying to connect.

I remove all the files, and started with a fresh Fetish only,
and it works, so it must be one of the 4.0 add ons
that I downloaded that is causing the screen
to shift.