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bioniclekid8 01-23-2009 03:07 AM

hex editing
 
I'm sort of new here, i don't make ui's, but i do hex edit the appearance of my characters using HxD, and i was wondering if anyone else does. (besides the ratonga goatee thing, but thats fun to)

:nana::nana::eek::nana::nana::cool:

samejima 01-23-2009 03:39 AM

Maybe I'm missing what you did but meh :(

gm9 01-23-2009 05:46 AM

Yeah I've got a couple of hex edited character, there's some funny combinations you can do, in particular I played around with the fae/arasai wings when they came out.

bioniclekid8 01-23-2009 04:26 PM

Yeah,mostve the work ive done is with colors, mostly getting black hair for my friends, i used to have a ccf file with a piece of code in it that i could put on any character then they would have fae wings, lol, funny on ratongas, to bad it got deleted when i re-installed eq2, and the person who i got it from hated the new expansion and left :( oh well, ill figure it out sometime

nluerdarea 01-23-2009 09:32 PM

Um... I've never heard of this, but it sounds interesting. If someone could point me in the right direction (I'm a hex noob) =P

Drumstix42 01-24-2009 03:36 AM

Strictly client-side changes I'm guessing?

gm9 01-24-2009 05:10 AM

Read this: http://www.eq2interface.com/portal.php?&id=4&pageid=15

nluerdarea 01-24-2009 08:05 AM

That's pretty cool, so it changes it In game permenantly? Is that allowed? I mean I don't see the harm in it, but it is hex editing files you shouldn't be touching. Also, if you don't mind hinting at what offsets the fae wings are at =P

gm9 01-24-2009 08:34 AM

I never dared to run with such a char on a live server, an ogre with fae wings would get some attention. :p So I only played around with it on Test.

For fae wings you need to save a fae .ccf file, take the wing information from there and merge it into another race's .ccf file.

nluerdarea 01-24-2009 08:41 AM

Ahh, so live servers are a no no? or is it a grey area?

gm9 01-24-2009 08:45 AM

I think in the end it won't make a difference whether you do it on live or Test, the EULA applies to both. For throwaway chars I don't see much of a risk, at worst they'll delete it, can't see them take any action against your account (i.e. suspending/banning you). But I do not know SOE's position on this, that's just my personal guestimate. If you want to do this with a char that you want to keep maybe /petition and ask?

nluerdarea 01-24-2009 08:54 AM

I'm thinking it the CS Rep will not know the answer to this and will just give me a "No" then I will have gotten told no and they will have it documented. I would rather go with the grey area method on a character I don't care to keep, see what happens with it and go from there =P

Maybe we can get Rothgar on this =P

Btw, my ratonga now has a beard on crushbone, but I still can't get the fae wings... I tried inserting them into my ratonga.ccf and ended up with bright blue whiskers and a bright blue beard... so confused =P

bioniclekid8 01-24-2009 11:24 PM

anyone made any progress lately with fae wings on other races? i havent been able to yet :(

bioniclekid8 01-25-2009 03:28 AM

but if/when i get the wings to work, ill make a rapidshare file for the .ccf.

nluerdarea 01-25-2009 07:50 AM

See, this is another thing I have been thinking about. .ccf files are sharable files. I can send you my .ccf file if you want to make your ratonga look the same as mine. So if someone sends you a .ccf file with a, for example, bearded ratonga, maybe you've never made a ratonga before. I don't see how SoE could take action against it, I'm sure they know about it and would have made changes to the way it works. Possibly some script that would scan the .ccf to see if it was hex edited. If they really cared about it anyways.

gm9 01-25-2009 10:16 AM

The more likely scenario is someone petitions your pink ogre with fairy wings. ;)

lordebon 01-25-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gm9 (Post 80286)
The more likely scenario is someone petitions your pink ogre with fairy wings. ;)

Indeed. And I would be one to do that, since it makes zip zero zilch sense heh. I'm honestly surprised that the server would accept it instead of having built-in constraints (ie if race!=(fae||arasai) then no wings and specific ranges for colors). But either way... small tweaks that make some sense in-game would likely be OK, but no pink ogres with fae wings, heh.

gm9 01-25-2009 01:38 PM

You're just jealous of my ogre. :D

dragowulf 01-25-2009 01:59 PM

Wait...you can do that?

nluerdarea 01-25-2009 02:07 PM

LOL drago, where ya been? j/k, I just learned about this myself

I can't think of anything you can do in the editor that isn't already as messed up as some illusions in-game (ie a rock/giant badger). Not to mention, all race models used to be able to have fae wings when EoF first came out (faes could use an illusion potion and keep the wings and you would have an ogre with fae wings)

I'm not trying to justify this by any means, I just think of it as more genetic experimentation and engineering. It's pretty clever honestly.

dragowulf 01-25-2009 02:22 PM

It only changes client side though...right?

lordebon 01-25-2009 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dragowulf (Post 80310)
It only changes client side though...right?

You use that file when creating a character (it's basically a way to save/load character appearances) so when you actually make that character it is how you appear to everyone.

I've never tried it, but it would be how you would appear to everyone, not just on your side (assuming it works).

dragowulf 01-25-2009 04:28 PM

I'm entrigued. Whether it's client side or not...how do you do this???

EDIT:NM

gm9 01-25-2009 04:45 PM

I posted a link to Othesus great writeup above. Can't believe you guys all missed that when he wrote it.

dragowulf 01-25-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gm9 (Post 80327)
I posted a link to Othesus great writeup above. Can't believe you guys all missed that when he wrote it.

Well was it a hot topic on the forums?


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